obsidian graph in emanote · website

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Topic: obsidian graph in emanote

Shivaraj B H (Dec 06 2023 at 17:55):

@Srid I want to have obsidian like interactive graph but reuse the nodes from uplink tree in emanote. How much of an effort, according to you, would that be?

I like having the graph stuck to the screen on the sidebar, for quick navigation, while I scroll through the page -- a UX I prefer.

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 18:13):

I'd like to improve the layout such as the right side includes sticky ToC. And the left side includes a navigation sidebar built off folgezettel relationships. So, it shows the siblings of current note in context of the inverted tree.

Yes, I want to do this in Emanote. But it is not clear how to visually represent a sidebar tree where nodes may have more than one parent. (In uplink tree this is not an issue because we don't show siblings)

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 18:15):

The graph itself is orthogonal feature, we can have that too. But I don't think it would be as useful as a (more flatish) navigation sidebar.

Shivaraj B H (Dec 06 2023 at 18:39):

But it is not clear how to visually represent a sidebar tree where nodes may have more than one parent.

Can you give me an example for nodes having more than one parent?

Shivaraj B H (Dec 06 2023 at 18:41):

The graph itself is orthogonal feature, we can have that too. But I don't think it would be as useful as a (more flatish) navigation sidebar.

If the sidebar works out, I don't mind using that. In the end, accessibility must be easy and navigation should be intuitive.

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 18:44):

Shivaraj B H said:

But it is not clear how to visually represent a sidebar tree where nodes may have more than one parent.

Can you give me an example for nodes having more than one parent?

Your own post: https://nixos.asia/en/blog/nixify-haskell-project-intro

What would the left sidebar content be, exactly, for this page?

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 18:46):

Another example: https://nixos.asia/en/gotchas/macos-upgrade

Say, both 'Gotchas' and 'macOS' have multiple children. How would these children be rendered on the sidebar, and where and how would the current page's title be positioned?

Shivaraj B H (Dec 06 2023 at 19:20):

How would these children be rendered on the sidebar, and where and how would the current page's title be positioned?

Why can't we have the title of the current page positioned in the centre and show the siblings of the current page recursively? It would look something of this sorts for nodes with multiple parents:
Screenshot-2023-12-07-at-12.47.00-AM.png

In this manner the children of 'Gotchas' and 'macOS' will be visible on the left side-bar when they visit the respective page. This will sure hide certain details, but is it a compromise worth making?

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 19:22):

Can you draw up (maybe on paper) what the https://nixos.asia/en/gotchas/macos-upgrade page would look like?

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 19:22):

Don't think I fully understand the visualization being proposed here.

Shivaraj B H (Dec 06 2023 at 19:25):

If my understanding of siblings is right, https://nixos.asia/en/gotchas/macos-upgrade doesn't have any siblings, does it?

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 19:27):

It does have siblings.

In context of gotchas, it has two siblings:

And in the context of macOS it has none, but could have in the future.

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 19:28):

(siblings by definition share the same parent)

Srid (Dec 06 2023 at 19:29):

This is how normally sidebars are rendered. For eg, when you look at the sidebar of https://emanote.srid.ca/tips/adding-images you see its two siblings: "JavaScript behaviours" and "Synchronizing notes using Syncthing".

Now this sidebar can only represent one parent, unlike our heterarchy which can have multiple parents (and thus multiple sets of siblings).